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>> michael: coming up, 11 million undocumented immigrants, 11 million stories and for most they begin in mexico where today president obama added his chapter to theirs. i'm michael shure and this is "the war room." >> michael: first of the latest from bon-ton. the three friends of dzhokhar tsarnaev are still in custody for allegedly taking a babb pack and a laptop from his room and lying from it. the police found the backpack last week and the laptop, and
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the friends came forward willingly. if he alerted them that he was the bomber rather than going to his room, the police might have been able to catch he and his brother before they went on his deadly rampage. to see how seriously the police are taking this situation today an 18-year-old boy is being held on $1 million bail because of his statement on facebook that he can outdo their attack. republicans are using the marathon bombing to cutting the immigration reform. some are even tying the bombing to immigration and some are going further. here is louie gohmrt. >> we know that al-qaida has camps on the other side of the
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mexico border. we know people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. we know these things are happening, and it's sane not to protect yourself and make sure that people come in, as most people do, they want the freedoms we have. >> michael: he said trained to act like hispanic. that's unbelievable. needless to say not anything of what he says is he said is true, and most do not believe the bombing has anything to do with immigration and 52% want immigration we form. this rally comes after a huge may day protest. senate majority leader harry reid spoke at the las vegas event, and he told the crowd he wants to get the senate bill to
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the floor by next month. still the president is optimistic about what he can do with immigration reform. he said they have to be willing to compromises to get through congress. he said that in mexico. he had a meeting with mexico's new president and reform will be a top item there. even though the president is promising to compromise, the g.o.p. surprise is not. the conservative "national review" is already going after republican members of the gang of eight who would dare reach agreement with the democrats. marco rubio on the cover calling it marco's followy. that oh shop shop is photoed. they photoed grover norquist out
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of the shop. >> he was a tea party darling until he went to d.c. and played hem. >> we put him in office and this is not what he promised us. >> senator rubio about what 22 million workers who can't find a full-time job. >> michael: the tea partyers may have fallen out of love with rubio but they still have a soft stop for ted cruz who has been trying to derail the effort ever since he got to the senate. >> i don't think there is any issue in this entire debate that is more di verysive than a path to citizen for those who are here illegally. main >> michael: that puts cruz squarely against marco rubio another possible 2016 contender. here to talk about the immigration battle brew be between senator rubio and ted
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cruz is wayne slater, wayne's senior political director for dallas morning news and joins us from dallas, texas. great to have you. >> great to be here you as always. >> michael: ted is being talked about as a possible 2016 candidate. it's his job to hut himself right of rubio and the guy got to the senate about a half hour ago. >> so did another newcomer to the senate who became president of the united states. you're right. he just got there and in a matter of weeks ted cruz has made simms a persona non grata depending on how you look at him, across the nation. this is an interesting matchup. it really gives the polar opposite on this immigration debate. rubio on one side gets let something done. let's accomplish something work actively to reach a balance of security on the board and solution with respect to the 11 million undocumented
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immigrants who are here, and on the other hand cruz who is offering up a simple bumper sticker that essentially says, amnesty, no way. this is really where the debate is going. what cruz as we now know, and i've talked to folks inside his campaign. what we now know is that cruz is interested in possibly running for president and cruz wants to emerge himself as to the right of everybody in the field to be the tea party darling. to have that happen he wants the bill to die in the senate, not the husband and ted cruz emerges as the new jim demint. >> michael: that's it. you talk about the new jim demint which means nothing to america but means something to you and me you have sources who say that is being talked about.
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can ted cruz run for president and if so would he be just far way to the right of rick santorum in 2012. >> isn't that amazing, to the right of rick santorum. that's really the play under way here. cruz wants to establish himself as the go-to person, the figure around which the radical right the far right the radical primary constituents in iowa florida, and elsewhere can rally as an alterative to say rubio, jeb bush or others in the party. you have to think what is the ultimate percentage there? can he garner more than 20% to 25% of the vote even on a good day? i just don't see it going farther than that. inet end i have to think that cruz who has a number of
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strengths with respect to his appeal to the tea party becomes a marginal figure throwing off votes, and maybe in the end giving the nomination to someone like a jeb bush, due don't kid yourself, he is a serious candidate. >> michael: he does seem--yeah, the more i see him the more i see exactly what you're talking about, how serious he is. but the distinguished gentleman from texas was the distinguish gentleman from canada. some are saying he should be allowed to run even though he's not born here. >> michael: you mean the cuban- cuban-canadian-american candidate? >> michael: act did i. >> ted cruz is--his father was a cuban immigrant. his mother was from delaware,
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and he was born in canada while his parents were working up there. his position, and many hold this position, because his mother is an american citizen he is a natural-born citizen and there are three requirements. one, you have to be 35. two, you have to live here 14 years, and you have to be a natural-born citizen. what does that mean? the courts suggests, and cruz says it means he was born a citizen because his mom was an american citizen, and frankly i think there is substantial law to back him up on that. i think in the end unlike arnold schwarzenegger, ted cruz, if he chose to run for president, he would be eligible, and the party would rally around
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a foreign-born nominee. >> michael: i don't know why it works for those guys but not barack obama. that astounds me. but let's talk about the immigration idea what he has been saying on immigration. we know how it plays in congress. how is it playing in texas? >> um, as you know, as a lot of people know, one of rick santorum's problems besides the fact that he had foot-in-mouth disease in the last campaign, was that he was relatively soft from the point of view from the right, his own party on immigration. he was a relatively moderate on immigration. so was george bush. you look at john mccain, who has had a variety of positions over the years but effectively is a nuanced and informed position on immigration. you get these people along the border and many folks along the border, not everybody but many political folks along the border in states like texas understand that the immigration issue is much more difficult and nuanced.
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there are family connections. there are economic connections. so you have in most cases not in the case of cruz, but in the case of many of these candidates the greater recognition of the value of immigration. withexcept oh foes the birthers and zenephobes, then you have a much more nuanced view of what immigration means. if one side is arguing a detailed, complex argument that's based on heart, on the economy, and on politics, and the other side is baseically arguing a bumper sticker the bumper sticker often wins. >> michael: yeah, i would say it almost always wins. i can't think of a time when the bumper sticker lost. rubio said there was no house support for immigration.
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john mccain said he thinks it can pass the house. is there now a schism between mccain and rubio? >> boy, it's tough. you see mayor re mayors arguing in affect the three arguments for immigration. in the case of schwarzenegger, it was the heart. with via re villiregas, and look at the value of the republican party, if we don't show ourselves to be more friendly and more tolerant and less harsh in our rhetoric about mexican americans and immigrants, then we're going to
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lose a growing constituency of voters in states like texas florida, and elsewhere the republican parties days could be relatively numbered. this is a very difficult debate, and the politics of it very, very important. but against that sort of political argument, the republican party is saying we got to do this other lez we're simply going to lose this grow growing constituency and support, without that the republican party is going to kill this bill in the house. it's very much up for grabs. >> michael: there is a certain segment, a significant segment of that party that seems to think we don't care. we would rather stand on our principles and see the party dissolve. wayne slater for the dallas morning news. we're always happy when we know you're going to be on the show. thank you for being with us tonight. when we come barks the president
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wants to close guantanamo bay. he can't or won't or some combination of both and all the rest of us can do is? as people there starve themselves to death. it was done display in 50 years in alabama and it was shown today children supporting children. and a man turned a benign piece of engineering into a symbol of who we are as a country. when we come back.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: the white house correspondence dinner may have won the president a few laughs but it did not win him aim
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favors in the press. he found himself more or less in the corner on an issue in a dogged him since he took office office:closing guantanamo bay in cuba. >> it's not a surprise to me that we have problems in guantanamo. which is why when i was campaigning in 2007 and 2008, and when i was elected in 2008 i said we need to close guantanamo. i continue to believe we got to close guantanamo. it needs to be closed. now, congress determined that they would not let us close it. >> michael: and therein lice the proverbial rub. despite listing all the reasons to close this prison and his long-standing commitment to do so he blames congress for the stalemate. critics from both the left and right argue that the president is not exercising all the authority he has.
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gitmo, hee aggravat he evaded it for a while. 40 reason on a hunger strike. 21 are being forceed fed to keep them alive. we go to josh from washington, d.c. welcome inside "the war room"." >> thank you for having me. >> michael: do you think the president seem genuine this time around? or do you think he wants to see this go away. >> no, he seemed pained by guantanamo and if the country would follow his advise on this issue we wouldn't nobody the situation we are in right now. but he did not seem very aware of his administration's own policy and he listed the reasons and what he thought the solutions were.
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>> michael: i want to you listen to the press conference, and in hearing you speak about t that's the thing that really frustrates a lot of people when the president has talked about guantanamo from the past. listen to this clip from the president. >> obama: the idea that we would still maintain forever a group of individuals who have not been tried, that is contrary to who we are, it is contrary to our interests, and it needs to stop. >> michael: again, that's macro-without the micro. he brings up the point we can't keep them there forever. something will happen. will obama handle it or will he leave it to hillary clinton. >> i don't see anything that he is handling it. it's a principled position he's putting forward. it sounds like every should get a trial or be released, but it's simply not his policy as his administration decided back
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in 2010 many of the inmates that are down there, they had no plans to try them or ever send them home. it's hard to reconcile that with the rhetoric that he used in the press conference which sounds like it came directly from the aclu. >> michael: the president has the power to override transfer on a case by case basis. why hasn't he done this. >> the biggest roadblock if you're talking about getting the numbers down in guantanamo, about half--more than half of the men remain there come from yemen, and there has been this hang up for several years where the administration suspended sending prisoners back to yemen because of concerns that it was too he said for them to escape there or get involved in further terrorist activity. the president is the one who made that decision. i think he could clear the way to send those men back or at least many of them back. and so far he hasn't wanted to
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make the political decision or take the political risk to do that. because it's likely if you send that many back some of them probably are going to become involved in extremeist activities. >> michael: the other thing, it's not just sending them back to yemen. he was met with roadblocks in congress. we don't want them coming to prisons on this land. they're safer there, which is absurd but listen to something that rudy giuliani said about this on cnn last night. >> well, i don't think we should close it. i can't imagine where you would put these people. >> come on. >> i can't imagine where you could put these people that wouldn't endanger the community in which they were put. i certainly wouldn't want them in or around new york. i think that there has to be an option in this kind of war that we're in. we're not in a war with a state. we're at war with an ideology. look at the people we've released there. a significant number of them have been released and then edge
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engageed in killing americans. >> they haven't been tried. >> michael: josh you have a chef there, who did a nice job speaking there but giuliani does represent some of the conservative who is are blocking the president on this issue. is there any validity that there would be a real security risk, these prisoners coming here. who wass last person who has escaped from a super max prison. >> i don't think there has been any escapes and there are murders in every prison across the country. to say these people are uniquely different. they may pose a different type of threat from a prison-type perspective than your typical prisoner, but it doesn't seem like it's an insurmountable problem. the bigger problem, and frankly the one the president hasn't
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confronted is this question is are we going to hold people indefinitely that don't get trials. i heard them say the worst vicious terrorists. if they're that vicious we could find something to try them for and there are some people in this group that the federal government has decided are too dangerous to release but quote it's not feasible to try them. >> michael: are there other options to closing the base other than moving the prisoners here and trials. what are the options? >> there are discussions in trying to transfer these prisoners in other countries if those other countries would be willing to detain them. there have been discussions of trying to send them to either countries where the u.s. maintains military bases. there was at one point people were talking about sending these prisonprisoners to afghanistan. but we've now turned that prison
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over to the afghans. there aren't many options beyond keeping that facility open or bringing them somewhere here in the united states. >> michael: and where does the public sit on this? do you have an idea of what the sentiment is on this? >> i don't think there is so much polling about it these days as when this was a hot issue a couple of years ago. but the campaign by republicans in wrong to say they didn't want these terrorists in their backyard was successful. i think it was two-thirds support for keeping these individuals out of the united states. that said, a lot of folks would say, look, the reason that public opinion became the way it was was because the obama administration never engaged on this issue. before the comments that the president made the other day the last time he discussed this issue at any substantive length was in a speech he gave in may of 2009 almost four years ago. >> michael: yes, that's by talking about it again there is going to be polling and maybe one the people start speaking about this, the president and
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congress will do something. they haven't done anything at all. josh who was funnier the president or conan. >> i thought the president was funny area. i thought the conan's cheap shot at hotel staff was unnecessary. >> michael: thanks so much. we've been oh doing a series on civil rights and today we want to know if today's youth appreciates the sacrifices that were made then. you don't have to worry any more. we'll tell but a great day in birmingham alabama. that's next. stay with us.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: welcome back to the show. the march goes on in birmingham, alabama. today more than 1,000 students from the region followed in the footsteps of civil rights pioneers. they took part in the 50th anniversary of the birmingham children's march. in 19 1963 police and
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segregationists stood in the way of children as they tried to march to city hall. progress is a great thing. there is also progress to report in the make up of president obama's cabinet. three days after nominating charlotte mayor anthony fox to head the transportation department president obama nominated penny pritzker lead to lead the commerce department. she'll be the fourth woman to lead the cabinet. she is an her heiress to the hyatt hotel fortune and has donated to the president's campaign. kelly, has not. welcome back inside "the war room." >> i'm not an heiress. i'm just putting that out there.
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>> michael: i'm assuming you have not raised hundreds of millions of dollars. >> i have not raised hundreds of millions of dollars and i will not be the commerce secretary. >> michael: back in january you wrote unfortunately the president as second-term cabinet nomination have not yet reflected the diversity of his first. even more disturbing to some they have not reflected the diversity of his republican predecessors. what do you think, the president is reading your blog. >> first off, i hear that the white house loves that column, that's what i hear. but in all seriousness there has been progress made since i wrote that column. she's the fourth high profile woman, most of these women have been white. there is nothing wrong about that, i want to be sure about that but in terms of variable
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diversity, and although the white house staff is racially diverse. i've written about that. this week in terms of anthony fox, significant one in terms of transportation, i will say something that is going to get me in trouble. you know, i don't mind that, which is i will acknowledge that there is always the question about who is being nominated to the cabinet and who is being nominated for the major positions within the cabinet. since you and i cover media we know a few people in the melt way. we know there are jokes about being secretary of agriculture and how important that is, and what table at a restaurant that's going to get you versus being secretary of defense or secretary of state. different orbit. am i giving out my token titles or are we nominating women and minorities for significant roles. and secretary of commerce is a significant role, which is why i
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think this is a big deal. >> michael: how much power--we hear hillary clinton we hear that hillary clinton was secretary of state obviously a woman, and it also matters in lower level administration posts as mel watt, how important are these smaller positions to the big picture? does it start with you have to get to mel watt there before you have mel watt as secretary of defense. >> i think it's important but it's not going to lessen the criticism. one of the reasons why i think president bush got a lot of contract general colin power no one thinks he gave that job out as a token. look i'm happy on diversity. that's not the kind of job you give for that, and national security adviser condoleezza
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rice before she came secretary of state. there are these other roles that still have to be filled are minorities being considered for them. when you look at hilda solis and eric holder, who is a hold over, but those are really significant prominent roles he was giving to nominating women and ethnic minorities to, and frankly we have not seen that in administration the second term, including the nomination this week which are not on the same caliber as those higher profile nominations even though i'm not taking anything away, i'm being candid. >> michael: it success does seem that they read your column. does the penny pritzker speak to women or women with money and power. >> you can read more on the >> michael: what is that queen.
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>> the you can talk about about this conversation it speaks to the nuances in my column. this is not the first time he tried to woo her to this nomination. she declined with family obligations, something that we see women do more than men. you look at sarah palin the scrutiny she faced as a parent and the scrutiny of paul ryan. i never saw a single column written about paul ryan not spending enough time with his family. and i read that a lot about sarah palin. there were a lot of tribes that people were focusing on, a double standard. so when pritzker, women even powerful accomplished women worry about being scrutinized
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and held to a different standard than men and it is because they are. >> michael: with fairness, i would like to spend more time with my family line is used more to get out of something that you don't want to do also. >> that's my point. this is an important distinction that you're making. when i was working in my previous life, to try to diversify the presence of women on television. you call a male guest and he thinks he's qualified to talk about anything at any time. you call a woman, and she says i don't know if i'm ready. you call joe the plumber the woman says i have to think about this. if a woman like penny pritsker says, i'm not sure what does that say about the average woman. we want women like penny
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pritzker and others. >> michael: it's also the excuse that larry craig gave. electing a woman president today's emily list launched it's campaign to get a woman in the white house. let's take a look at their video. >> my mom told me i could be anything i want. you know it didn't used to be like that. >> a long time ago women didn't even get to vote. which is crazy. >> my mom told me when she grew up, no one even thought there would be a woman president. >> can you imagine a woman president? they were all boys. >> michael: in 2016 what is stopping a woman from reaching the white house keli. >> only hillary clinton saying she wants to be there. that's all that is standing in the way. republicans have not made a secret about the fact that they feel like--a couple of high
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profile republicans say this is the year they have to sit it out because it's hers for the taking. andrew cuomo has said that it's hers for the nomination. a great feminist group has stayed devoted to see another woman elected. i see another group stepping up in its place. i'll say a quick anecdote before we run out of time. the leader in iceland for i think four terms almost as long as fdr. because she was the first female leader in iceland and literally in office for four terms and because she was there so long there were little boys who thought they could not be president because all they knew was a woman in leadership position. that's a profound story about the influence of being a woman in that role. i would like to see little girls like my niece, have that image too. >> michael: i can never correct
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you on your pronunciation because i have idea what you said keli goht thank you for coming on the war ram. 19-year-old zach kopplin has tasked himself with stopping louisiana's education system from allowing teachers to ask questions like, did god create the birds in the air on the third day or the fourth day.
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teachers to use quote supplemental text books and other instructional materials in the classroom. in other words, they can teach faith-based creationism and it opens the door for them to question scientific theories because it conflicts with religious ideology. beyond the classroom this law has far ranging ramifications. cloud bouchard former executive director of the louisiana state university pennington research center recently said if you are an prosecutor in a high tech industry would you refer to hire a graduate from a state where the legislature has a sense declared that laws of chemistry physics or biology can be suspended at times or someone from a state with a rigorous science kirk almost? good point mr. bouchard. repeal of this law has the backing of 78 nobel lawyer rate scientists and major science
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organizations. but in in a 3-2 vote, the senatation committee deferred the bill leaving the law on the books for a now. our next guest launched the campaign to repeal the act and testified at yesterday's hearing.hearing. you testified at the hearing yesterday, what sort of questions did you get and how did you respond why. >> they have emphasized there are no complaints from teachers and students inside the cools about creationism. that's missing the point. the person who sponsored the bill is for creationism. the governor who signed it is for creationism. and the school board who enacted it have acknowledged they're for creationism. other school boards have helped to ban creationism from their classroom because of this law. it's really mainly interested in
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trying to avoid the real point of this law. >> michael: yes, as it seems just by their vote. state senator, this is a beautifulry, he will better elbert guillory had reservation abouts repealing the act after a spiritual healer diagnosed a medical ailment. he said if i closed my mind when i saw this man in the dust throwing some bones on the ground, semi clothed if i had closed him off and just said, that's not science, i'm not going to see this doctor. how would that have reacted to those comments. >> these statements are why we need to repeal the law. that is not science. as much as senator guillory may value his spiritual experience, it's not science. science is testable and repeatable, and that's what belong in a science class.
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that's a perfect example of what does not belong in the science class. >> michael: this creeping creationism does not promote pseudoscience in your home state of louisiana. what are some of the economic circumstances you've found already. >> we've driven scientists out of state. scientists have rejected his offers to come because of this law. scientists have left the state because their kids were going older and ready to go to school and they didn't want their children going to school in louisiana where they thought creationism. they have lost proximately $2.9 million$2.9 million with scientists
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leaving the state. that's really has how it has hurt our state. >> michael: when you think about louisiana and it's history of katrina, you would think that science is blatantly in front of them all the time. there is draft fledges the house that would overhaul the approval process for national science foundation grants. those are grants that fund scientific research right now. nsf grants are approved by scientists but the new legislation would let congress set the rules for research funding. ho would though impact scientific research in this country. >> there is a process which grants scientists for research. when luke at these new rules it's interesting. it's the project that grants can't overlap. that misses the scientific method itself that science experiments are repeatable. it's important that we keep
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testing our experiments. and on top of that is the implication of these new rules there is a problem with how we do science in america. there is a problem but it's not in the house the problem is we're not funding enough science. instead of revaulting the rules for grants and choking off what is funding we should be funded a lot more. >> michael: yes, it seems that way. the creation bill has failed three times. the fight is far from over. what is your next move, zach? >> we're going to bring it back this year. we'll have our citizens of louisiana call legislature and tell them vote for science. at this point we know it, they know it, it's a matter of time. this law will be repealed and the legislature in louisiana will make a choice, do they want to be on the right side of history or do you want to be on the wrong side of history. some made the choice for the wrong side. we'll come back again.
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>> michael: you're to young to run for david vitter's seat, zach. up next, brett erlich goes online to look for a date and ends up on alex jones conspiracy website. his journey on the right, after this. you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?
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1,776 feet high making it the tallest building in the western hemisphere. and at 1776 feet, a powerful symbol of our country's history and resilience in the face of terrorism. and of course the ugly side of our country's psych and also rears it's head post 9/11 in the form of islam phobia sometimes even comes from public figures who really should know better. like barry west, the commissioner of coffee county in tennessee, who posted this picture on his facebook, the words "how to wink at a muslim." and he took it down but refused to issue an apology telling a local paper quote. and if race ifear among der wasn't enough, there's nra with its paranoia mongering. when it comes to whipping you have fear and loathing you
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cannot beat the far right. you may know not it, but brett erlich moon lights as a matchmaker. he turned to an unexpected website to find a few date-worthy singles. calm down folks brett's talking now. >> hey, sailor, what are you doing this weekend? sailing? all right, you probably will be too busy then, but if you got time this weekend how about a little love connection and what better place to find it than dating freedom lover's group. the official dating site of conservative pundit alex jones info what puts you more in the mood than this guy. >> they don't know they're dealing with an out of control tasmanian devil who will jump on top of them and gouge their eyes out and smash their brains in the ground. they have no idea. >> hot. [ sizzle ] >> like this guy he wants a quote, woman who likes the really right kind of bad boy.
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a woman that doesn't not have her head up her. [ bleep ] leads, check your head, is it up your. [ bleep ] if not you're totally this dupe's type. how about this guy david. i'm enthusiastic about analog technology why not analog and digital exist side by side. but no it has to be destroy the old, build up the new order ad chaos. hear that, ladies, he speaks latin. how about this gentleman. as you can see he loves animals. 's looking for a woman with a good sense of humor who lives close to him and who is open-minded like he is. if you're interested, you can reach out to this wholesome fellow at a twitter handle handle@maggot. find your love match now as it's easy to find website. write it down. get a pen.
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i'll wait for you. >> michael: folks, someone is always in our war room. check us out online at room. that's where you can hook up with our twitter and facebook page. have a great night and a great weekend unless you're going to the nra convention. [ ♪ music ♪ ] alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets
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♪ theme ♪ cenk: welcome to "the young turks." great show four as always, colonel wilkerson former chief of staff to colin powell will be on the show. we'll try to talk gitmo and bush legacy. that ought to be a fascinating conversation. later in the program i've got climate change for you, i've got possibly the most racist ad ever. interesting. let's get started with guns. this weekend in houston the n.r.a. gathers for its